Spilled the Beans
There are those of us with hardware upon which the new(er) versions of Ubuntu will not install, no matter how many kernel options are given at boottime, X fails for some reason, etc. Yes, one could purchase new hardware to solve the software conflicts; I would prefer to patch the *essential* shortcomings in the older working system until the need for new hard/software is warranted. jmho.
Just Give Me the Beans!
If your old hardware won't run Ubuntu, have a look at Mint - I have a 12-year old laptop running Mint 14 in my 'shed'.
First Cup of Ubuntu
This is kind of an interesting one. I have the same problem -- linux-image-2.6.32-61-generic-pae makes my old 10.4 desktop unusable. FireFox and ThunderBird, for example, open but then stop responding within a few seconds -- they go grey and have to be killed.
I understand that there is no support and there are no more updates for 10.4 LTS Desktop. But SOMETHING is clearly wrong with this new kernel. It obviously effects the desktop, but what else does it effect? I would think the developers would want to know about this problem and might well wind up fixing it, depending on what the problem actually turns out to be. Obviously it's not going to be fixed from the Desktop side of the distro, but if I was one of the kernel developers I'd want to at least hear about this problem.
Iced Almond Soy Ubuntu, No Foam
10.04 has been dead for a year. I wonder how you got security updates when they arent being released any more.... Lets have a look at your logs. Post the contents of /var/log/apt/history.log
Dark-Roasted but Half-Baked
If it takes several days to install Ubuntu, update it and recover your apps, you are doing something wrong.
90 minutes, tops. I do it all the time during the dev cycle.
With regard to value judgments, they are yours to make, of course.
I can replace a back door with broken hinges on my house in 90 minutes or I can hinge it with duct tape in 5.
Thing is, I wouldn't want the keys to the kingdom dangling next to the duct tape.
Last edited by QIII; June 6th, 2014 at 11:35 PM.
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Gee! These Aren't Roasted!
We can trade aphorisms about security until the cows come home (is that an aphorism?) but I'm with Barry_Trent on this one, always useful to know when there's a problem.
First Cup of Ubuntu
Same thing for me 10.04 but different symptoms. Ran Update Manager this afternoon. After reboot & login, gnome gui hangs. Top & bottom bars display properly, but rest of desktop never appears and spinning wait cursor just spins forever.
Updates were: (from /var/log/apt/history.log)
Start-Date: 2014-06-06 14:38:20
Install: linux-headers-2.6.32-61 (2.6.32-61.124), linux-image-2.6.32-61-generic (2.6.32-61.124), linux-headers-2.6.32-61-generic (2.6.32-61.124)
Upgrade: linux-headers-generic (2.6.32.60.67, 2.6.32.61.68), linux-image-generic (2.6.32.60.67, 2.6.32.61.68), linux-libc-dev (2.6.32-60.122, 2.6.32-61.124), libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18), openssl (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18), linux-generic (2.6.32.60.67, 2.6.32.61.68)
End-Date: 2014-06-06 14:44:36
Start-Date: 2014-06-06 16:39:34
Downgrade: libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8), openssl (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8)
End-Date: 2014-06-06 16:39:54
Start-Date: 2014-06-06 16:49:32
Upgrade: libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18), openssl (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8, 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.18)
End-Date: 2014-06-06 16:49:52
As you can see, I tried to downgrade the libssl & openssl updates, but that didn't help, so I restored them.
ShowMeGrrl, are these the same updates you got?
Last edited by gtalbott; June 7th, 2014 at 12:03 AM.
Iced Almond Soy Ubuntu, No Foam
Looks like Canonical updated the openssl package in 10.04, maybe to patch the recently discovered vulnerabilities.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+...ssl/+changelog
They apparently did something wrong. Id file a bug report, although I dont know how much attention it will get considering that 10.04 is past end of life.
First Cup of Ubuntu
whatthefunk: Thanks, that was my thought too.
1. When you said "Id file a bug report", did you mean you _will_ file one, or I should file one (not having a clue as to where or how).
2. For now (pending a fix from Canonical) how do I fix my system? I guess I can back out the entire upgrade using Synaptic, but (as you can see from the history log) Synaptic doesn't downgrade to the immediately prior version: eg original upgrade libssl0.9.8 (0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.15) -> 8.18 downgrades to 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 (not 8.15). Don't want to break anything else.
Even though 10.04 is past it's end of life, if they broke it, I hope to God they will fix it. I'd update to the latest LTS, but until today it wasn't broken and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
A Carafe of Ubuntu
I have a similar problem. Running 10.04 on an old System76 tower. Installed the latest patch today, and on reboot it refuses to recognize my wireless keyboard or mouse.
1. tried usb kbd/mouse, in different ports. no joy
2. tried to find a way to change the configuration on boot via <F2>/<F10>. no joy
3. booted from old live CD, in order to edit the Grub file (info from different thread). sudo mounted my hard drive without asking for a password. Always a bad sign. edited Grub config file, and saved, but when I tried to update-grub is said it couldn't find the file and had I mounted /dev? Running off the live CD it recognizes the mouse and keyboard, so they aren't the problem
I was planning to upgrade to 14.4LTS in mid-June, after school is out, but this is kindof forcing my hand.
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